San Diego Poetry Guild

notes on guild, poetry, and San Diego

1.19.2005

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"...a poem can now be written free of commitment to, or even knowledge of, the formal or material conventions for receiving the poem.

...an author can now create the formal or material conventions for receiving a poem (epitomized in what we now call interface design) free of any specific knowledge about what actual source content will be delivered into that frame."

News from Alan Liu's recent article in Critical Inquiry, "Transcendental Data: Toward a Cultural History and Aesthetics of the New Encoded Discourse," a charming and sometimes unnerving manifesto of sorts on XML and postindustrial authorship.

Target utopia? structuring structures?: "...thick, pliant strands of XML are girding the wilderness (and even tying in word processor documents) to enable a new order of knowledge ... a step in the direction of what Tim Berners-Lee, the web's founder, has envisioned as a future 'Semantic Web'--a web that will understand something about the nature of the discourse it is being asked to communicate and thus be able to process that discourse more intelligently and automatically."

And Berners-Lee in Liu's 18th footnote: "The Semantic Web is...an extension of the current [web], in which information is given well-defined meaning, better enabling computers and people to work in cooperation."

Alan Liu, prof.English at UC Santa Barbara, launched the famous Voice of the Shuttle in 1994 and serves on the board of the E(lectronic) L(iterature) O(rganization) whose Electronic Literature Directory "provides an extensive database of listings for electronic works, their authors, and their publishers."

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At a surrealist rally in the 1920s Tristan Tzara the man from nowhere proposed to create a poem on the spot by pulling words out of a hat. A riot ensued wrecked the theater. AndrÈ Breton expelled Tristan Tzara.

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Coming from the Latin word industria, meaning “diligent activity directed to some purpose,” and its descendant, Old French industrie, with the senses “activity,” “ability,” and “a trade or occupation,” our word (first recorded in 1475) originally meant “skill,” “a device,” and “diligence” as well as “a trade.”

Post-industy, post-diligence, not-requiring skill.

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Wild 1. Occurring, growing, or living in a natural state; not domesticated, cultivated, or tamed:

We speak, therefore of an contained electronic wilderness? Whose non-actual “world” is said Web? The lumpen cookie dough for which a electronic frame will, amoeba like, pahgoctize the amterial and render up... poetry?

can we move any further away form teh thing itself. bad enough words only signify, that the machinations of the brain only are able to replicate subtle relationships found in nature.

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